[Bug 16691] New: Section headings should have some clickable anchor for passing links

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Summary: Section headings should have some clickable anchor for
passing links
Product: MediaWiki
Version: unspecified
Platform: All
URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: Normal
Component: Page rendering
AssignedTo: wikibugs-***@lists.wikimedia.org
ReportedBy: ***@wikimedia.org


Say you're in the middle of a long page and want to pass somebody a link... A
link to the particular section would often be more helpful than just a link to
the top of the page, but to do that right now you have to jump up to the table
of contents and find your section again, then click that link.

It would be nicer if the section header itself were clickable, or had a little
link anchor thingy you could click next to it that had the #blah bit on it to
cut-n-paste or drag-n-drop.

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Brion Vibber <***@wikimedia.org> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Brion Vibber <***@wikimedia.org> 2009-03-05 18:37:29 UTC ---
This needs a UI mockup for how to add it without confusing things...

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--- Comment #2 from MZMcBride <***@mzmcbride.com> 2009-03-10 21:05:06 UTC ---
Proposed mock-up for LTR and RTL languages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=276361042

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--- Comment #3 from Stefan Nowak <***@gmx.at> 2010-04-10 19:35:02 BST ---
Good idea!

I already saw this implemented within a wiki, but cannot recall the particular
wiki software.

If you hovered above a headline, a paragraph-symbol appeared next to the
headline. If you clicked on the paragraph-symbol, you activated the anchored
link, and could simply copy the URL from the address bar then.

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--- Comment #4 from Brion Vibber <***@wikimedia.org> 2011-09-20 16:02:20 UTC ---
*** Bug 31039 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #5 from ***@jidanni.org 2011-09-20 16:17:15 UTC ---
It's hard to think of any websites without this feature. Even this very
Bugzilla comment of mine already has this feature.

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--- Comment #6 from ***@jidanni.org 2011-09-20 16:19:50 UTC ---
But my "[link]" makes more sense than "#" for how to label it. See Bug 31039.
Plus no goofy hover craft needed or wanted, just plain old HTML.

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--- Comment #7 from Daniel Friesen <mediawiki-***@nadir-seen-fire.com> 2011-09-20 16:23:13 UTC ---
IMHO an icon with alt fallback probably makes the most sense here.

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--- Comment #8 from ***@jidanni.org 2011-09-20 23:18:23 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #7)

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IMHO an icon with alt fallback probably makes the most sense here.

Ah, http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f517/index.htm directly, if
only it was more widespread.

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--- Comment #9 from Krinkle <***@gmail.com> 2011-09-20 23:20:33 UTC ---
Also, making it only appear on-hover of the heading (or atleast be less
page-cluttering when not focussing it) would be nice.

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--- Comment #10 from Daniel Friesen <mediawiki-***@nadir-seen-fire.com> 2011-09-21 00:10:08 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #9)

Post by b***@wikimedia.org
Also, making it only appear on-hover of the heading (or atleast be less
page-cluttering when not focussing it) would be nice.

:/ angry stares from every usability oriented person taking touch screens into
consideration fall upon that comment.

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Krinkle <***@gmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #11 from ***@jidanni.org 2011-09-21 00:17:49 UTC ---
Allow me to demonstrate the pain of [add my usual obligatory "dragging
your heels by not fixing this" remark here] not having this feature.

To make a proper Facebook™ link, one needs
http://transgender-taiwan.org/index.php?title=%E7%8F%BE%E6%99%82%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6#.E5.8F.B0.E7.81.A3TG.E8.9D.B6.E5.9C.92_2011.2F10.2F16_.E8.81.9A.E6.9C.83.EF.BC.88no.65.EF.BC.89--_.E6.89.AE.E8.A3.9D.E7.9A.87.E5.90.8E
but there's no way in h*ll the "average user" is going to cobble that
together especially on such pages without enough items to trigger a TOC.

Whatever you do make sure it still works in text browsers, even if
unfamiliar territory.

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--- Comment #12 from Gustronico <***@gmail.com> 2012-01-14 21:28:23 UTC ---
*** Bug 25107 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #13 from Gustronico <***@gmail.com> 2012-01-14 21:35:19 UTC ---
See also Bug 2381 - Copy-and-paste-friendly anchors for section headings.

Should this bug be marked as duplicate of that older one?

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--- Comment #14 from Stefan Nowak <***@gmx.at> 2012-01-14 23:36:53 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #13)

I consider bug 2383 related to, but NOT a duplicate, of this bug!
This bug is about how to exhibit a section anchor link to the visible user
interface,
whereas bug 2383 deals with how to generate special characters in anchor links.

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MZMcBride <***@mzmcbride.com> changed:

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--- Comment #15 from MZMcBride <***@mzmcbride.com> ---
I'm not sure this is really a parser bug. I'm switching the component to
"Interface" and marking this bug with the "easy" and "design" keywords.

I also added a URL:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Clickable_section_anchors>.

I think the next steps for this bug would be doing a few real-life mock-up
implementations on a test wiki and then asking wikitech-l and others which is
best. This bug shouldn't be very difficult to resolve.

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--- Comment #16 from Nemo <***@tiscali.it> ---
-easy: given that we're not even able to move the "edit" link without JS, this
is probably not easy at all.

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--- Comment #17 from MZMcBride <***@mzmcbride.com> ---
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Post by b***@wikimedia.org
-easy: given that we're not even able to move the "edit" link without JS,
this is probably not easy at all.

Read comment 15.

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--- Comment #18 from ***@jidanni.org ---
For instance the comment 18 link you see above is achieved with a mere

<span class="bz_comment_number">
<a href="show_bug.cgi?id=16691#c18">Comment 18</a>
</span>

See, even I could do that.

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--- Comment #19 from Shikha Shree <***@gmail.com> ---
I am new to FOSS and mediawiki how do I start on this bug and how do I
replicate the error on my local machine.

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--- Comment #20 from Andre Klapper <***@wikimedia.org> ---
Shikha: Does
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Annoying_little_bugs&oldid=909298#Helpful_information_for_new_MediaWiki_coders
provide some help?

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--- Comment #22 from ***@gmail.com <***@gmail.com> ---
I would like to take this issue, if there is noone opting for it.

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--- Comment #23 from Andre Klapper <***@wikimedia.org> ---
anurag3rdsep: Sure, go ahead! :)